Women in Law: Holly Sara

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Holly Sara is a Partner in the Global Disputes Practice at Jones Day, in the Sydney Office.

Jones Day has a history of more than 125 years and a culture of client service and professionalism based on explicit shared values. These values include providing pro bono legal services, building diversity in our profession, and supporting outreach efforts around the world.

Tell us about your career progression to date.

I studied Law and Biotechnology degrees at university and was awarded the University Medal in both. For a time, I thought I might become a transactional IP or patent lawyer but, by chance, happened to rotate through the commercial litigation department during one of my summer clerkships at a large firm. I loved everything about litigation – the variety of clients and matters, the adrenaline rush of being in court, and the difficult issues that needed to be worked through, often under pressure – and never looked back! I’ve been a litigator ever since and with Jones Day from 2013, where I’ve been fortunate enough to work on some of Australia’s most significant and high-profile disputes and regulatory matters.


What do you like best about working at Jones Day?

Jones Day truly embodies its One Firm Worldwide® ethos. I have worked with lawyers, paralegals and support staff in more than 30 of our 42 offices worldwide and in every case my experience has been exactly the same – nothing is ever too much trouble, everybody delivers client service to the same excellent standard, and collaboration across offices is always seamless. In addition, we are privileged to have a workplace where everyone is exceptionally talented and dedicated, and truly collegiate. It’s something that has been acknowledged by our clients many times – including by one leading General Counsel who told us she had never seen a team of external lawyers work as well together as the Jones Day team.


Do you have a mentor/role model in your career? What’s the value in having a mentor or being a mentor?

I have had a number of really important mentors, both male and female, throughout my career, and I still do today. They are invaluable. A good mentor will help you build up your skillset, put you forward for roles or opportunities that you might not otherwise be aware of or considered for, and push you to move outside of your comfort zone. They also have, through years of experience, great wisdom about life’s opportunities and challenges and can offer perspectives which are sometimes difficult to see for yourself.


Do you have any advice for working parents on how to progress and succeed?

I have two young children and I know firsthand that it takes a village to successfully manage a full-time legal career and being a parent. Never be afraid to ask for help or speak to your colleagues about how they are managing things. You may learn some new tips or tricks from people who have been there before you. Try, as best you can and particularly after returning from a period of parental leave, to let go of any self-doubt. Yes, life has changed, but you are still the same person you were before, with the same skills and talents – and, in fact, you’re probably even more efficient than you were before!


How important is it to have other women visible at management level?

In my view, it’s extremely important. Women need to be able to see that an organisation’s commitment to diversity and inclusion is not just given lip service, but that it is reflected in practice. Seeing diversity at management level is inspiring and motivating, and gives people confidence that they too can hold those positions one day, regardless of their gender or background. At Jones Day, women are visible leaders – 15 of 42 offices are led by women; women hold four regional leadership positions, as Partner-in-Charge of Europe and M&A practice leaders for the Americas, Europe, Middle East, and Africa (EMEA), and Asia. Women comprise almost a third of our partnership and lead a third of our Firmwide practice groups. The Firm’s hiring partner, pro bono partner, Partner-in-Charge of Diversity, Inclusion and Advancement, and Global Community Service partner are women. Almost 40 percent of the Firm’s Partnership Committee (which advises the Managing Partner on admissions to the partnership and partnership compensation) are women, and a little over 40% of the Advisory Committee are also women. Women leaders are easy to find here, and I have always been impressed by that fact.


In your experience, what are the benefits of more diverse teams and diverse organisations?

Simply put, in my view, they perform better than less diverse teams and organisations. Diverse teams and organisations have the benefit of people with different backgrounds, talents and relationships, all of which means they can access and take into account different perspectives in undertaking their work. In my experience, they can also better relate to and understand their clients, who will inevitably have a variety of backgrounds among their own teams.


What is the main thing you’ve seen in any organisation that you think works, from a diversity point of view, or that enables women to progress?

The key thing is putting a stated commitment to diversity into practice. That can be big things, like ensuring diversity in management and leadership positions as I mentioned above, and putting in place committees to identify and implement initiatives (such as our Australian Jones Day Diversity, Inclusion & Advancement Committee with members from all four Australian offices), but also in the day-to-day things. One example of the latter is recognising that people might participate in meetings in different ways and making sure that everyone is empowered to participate and lead, for example, by giving people who might be less confident to speak up or interrupt others an opportunity to contribute to a discussion and rotating the role of chair.


What advice do you have for young women looking to make a career in your industry now?

The future looks really bright. More women than ever are joining the legal profession and rising to leadership positions. Both women and men are routinely taking extended periods of parental leave, which means that there is an enhanced understanding of the challenges unique to being a working parent. More organisations are committed to truly enhancing diversity and inclusion. It is a great time for women to enter the profession especially here at Jones Day.

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​Our webinar 2025 and Beyond: Why Your Hiring, Learning, and Culture Need to Evolve brought together thought leaders Enrique Rubio (Hacking HR), Lisa Skinner Källström (Teamtailor), and Hydrogen Group’s Dean Jennings and Michelle Miller. The conversation explored strategies used to tackle the challenges of the future workforce, shift organisational cultures towards lasting partnerships, and ensure teams are equipped for the age of artificial intelligence. _ The Q&A box was brimming! Our webinar offered participants the chance to consult our HR experts on addressing shifts in the people and culture realm as we approach 2024 and beyond. Interesting questions were raised, and we compiled them all to seek and reached out to our experts to get some definitive answers. For a recap on the webinar, check out our blog Navigating the Future: Insights from our Webinar "2025 and Beyond"  So, here we are. Your questions - answered! - ​How can companies make people feel more secure in their jobs? Is it just a matter of increasing communication? Lisa suggested a shift towards a more sustainable approach. 'In recent years, we have seen many companies experience massive growth, and the need to get great talent onboard - hence offering extremely generous compensation packages. Unfortunately, many have now faced layoffs, and while the compensation and benefit strategies are not the sole reasons, I would like to propose a more sustainable approach for the future. [Increase benefits as the company grows, and as business results allow, we can increase pension levels or similar benefits – and discuss it internally! Open dialogue about results, investment choices, and their rationale fosters a sense of involvement among team members and signals the company's commitment to a sustainable direction.]' Dean echoed concerns about job security in today's volatile economy and advises, 'In today's uncertain economic climate, job security is a concern. 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As always, AI in these types of systems is not designed to make the decisions for a recruiter or business - but serve as an assistant to save time and work more efficiently.’ Dean added, ‘There are far too many to list. The AI directory https://aitoolsdirectory.com/ does a really good job of showcasing what does what and where you can find it.’ What is the impact of AI on employee engagement and how can HR teams use AI to promote engagement? Also, what precautions should professionals take when using AI? ​Dean offered his perspective by stating that ‘engagement and AI may seem contradictory, but there's a clear benefit when HR uses AI to streamline admin tasks, freeing up time for vital human interaction. Tools like Koios, for instance, offer Acoustic AI, helping HR understand team and individual personalities better, for more tailored approaches. Professionals must approach AI implementation carefully, ensuring ethical use to maintain trust and transparency in the workplace.’ How can we make sure our services stay personalised while using AI? Dean responded, ‘By leveraging AI to handle time-consuming tasks. The best thing about AI is that you get to choose what it does and what it doesn’t. If you feel strongly about human interaction to enable personalisation, you don’t have to let go of that – just embrace AI to make those interactions better. Get it to strip data in the background for you, or to type up your notes and actions as you have the conversations. The possibilities are endless, and they can be tailored to your needs.’ Within your businesses, have you experienced any resistance to the adoption of AI? How have you handled these objections? Dean responded, ‘A lot of the resistance I have seen has either been a fear of trying or a fear of being caught. There seems to be a negative connotation with AI, that if you get it to do something for you, are you cheating? The answer is a resounding no, you are working with the tools available to make yourself more productive for your organisation. Robot proof recruiter, if you haven’t read it, you should. Especially if you are a recruiter or if recruitment is part of your job role. I’ll spare you the details, but it is an amazing read that showcases the fact you can never take the people part out of recruitment - you’ll always be able to provide a better level of service than a robot (at least for now) and you need to focus on the parts of the process where human interaction is at its most vital and automate/utilise AI to get back time in your day to improve that social element of the process.’ Do you feel Employee Resource Groups will be on the rise with the future generation of workers? ​Dean replied, ‘A truly hybrid workplace cannot function effectively without the right technology in place. That doesn’t even need to be AI. For employees to feel a sense of belonging in a workplace, there should be a seamless experience that goes beyond just having teams up on 1 laptop in a room full of 30 people. Again, this will only advance with time ... my eutopia is to have my whole team (who are based in the UK + Thailand) sat around a virtual desk, on a beach with an interactive whiteboard we can utilise in real time via virtual and augmented reality. You may laugh now, but in the next couple of years, VR and AR tech will be the staple of hybrid working and teams coming together around the globe. This doesn’t take away from the in-person experience and nor do I think it should. It should be a tool that compliments real-time working solutions.’ How can we support older generation employees in the changing landscape? ​Dean offered his perspective, ‘AI is truly remarkable. It embodies the futuristic vision many of us had as children—computers and programs taking on tasks for us. For those uneasy about it, I believe it's a matter of not fully comprehending it or lacking the skills to use it effectively. AI has quietly become a part of the workplace, and many are still navigating its intricacies. The focus should be on empowering employees to leverage AI to enhance productivity and value to the organisation. Those who resist or fail to adapt won't be replaced by AI but by individuals who embrace change and view AI as a tool for greater contribution.’ How can we safeguard against the risk of AI stifling creativity in the workplace? ​Lisa said, ‘I would say the opposite, if we use AI for the more regular and routine tasks then we will have more time to use to be creative! For example, instead of spending hours on creating a presentation for an important project - let AI do this creating for you and spend the time on how you want to engage with your audience instead. Using ChatGPT to find easy tasks that I would previously have spent a lot of time on has been a big change in how I work and allows me find space in the day.’ Is there a regional divide across different parts of the world? 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